Seafoamed the girl's tC

"themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles" (themanwithsauce) 07/01/2015 at 10:20 • Filed to: None

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Two things. 1) The car has some power again. 2) I am pretty sure the entire county thought I blew an engine. But nope, just seafoam breaking up everything in the variable valve timing system. I swear, her motor was so gunked and deposit filled that it wasn’t working right....

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 07/01/2015 at 10:34

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So this stuff really does work?

Racescort666 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 07/01/2015 at 10:37

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Serious question because I don’t use Sea Foam: Do you put it in the oil or fuel?

Nibbles > Racescort666 07/01/2015 at 10:53

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Both, and vacuum system. 1/3 can into the vaccum line at the break booster (while engine is running and warm). Stop it and let it sit for half an hour or so, then fire it up and watch the smoke pour out! Then you put 1/3 in the gas tank and 1/3 in the crankcase. Change the oil shortly thereafter (I’ve always been worried about going even 500 miles because it can really thin things out).

Nibbles > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 07/01/2015 at 10:53

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YES.

NoneOfYourBiz > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 07/01/2015 at 10:55

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Some pundits have suggested that “SeaFoam” is just water with some mineral oil added to generate smoke and that it’s not the oil but the steam that actually assists in removing deposits.

Modern fuel is required to have additives to help prevent deposits from forming so products like SeaFoam don’t have the usefulness they might have, say, 50 years ago. This isn’t to say it won’t clean up an engine that has something going wrong with it (say, a leaking gasket causing oil to get where it shouldn’t, resulting in carbon deposits)

Every credible source I’ve read suggests you should stay away from the stuff though; show me peer-reviewed literature that supports its use and I’ll change my tune.

Racescort666 > NoneOfYourBiz 07/01/2015 at 10:56

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Link?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 07/01/2015 at 11:02

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Yep. Used it quite a few times on various cars and had good success.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > NoneOfYourBiz 07/01/2015 at 11:04

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I disagree. Having used it on afew cars, the ones that actually smoke are the ones that tend to idle in traffic and are driven by people who don’t do regular maintenance. I’ve used it on one of my cars and I got a whole lot of nothing because I clean injectors at 75-100k and avoid cheap gas stations and run my car up and down the rev range.

I have seen very few naysayers for the product.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Racescort666 07/01/2015 at 11:06

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This was just through the intake to get it on the valves and in the combustion chamber to get the smoke. But you put a little it in the oil when the engien is at temperature, then idle/gently drive for a bit, and then you can do an oil change. Don’t over-use the product in the oil. Just like 1/8 to 1/4 of a can. Some will be left behind in the engine so too much will thin out the oil.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > NoneOfYourBiz 07/01/2015 at 11:10

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It’s not water with mineral oil, it’s mineral spirits with extra solvents and light oil. It’s not supposed to be a miracle secret formula, just a helpful formulation - and it’s not sold for half of the uses to which it gets put.

Rico > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 07/01/2015 at 11:17

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Make it your duty to beat the shit out of the car every month or so and take that baby up to the redline.

When people tell me they are “afraid” to redline their car and have never went past 5K RPM I just laugh at them.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > NoneOfYourBiz 07/01/2015 at 11:21

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Also, a note on seafoam being “just oil” - that shows a basic failure to understand chemistry. Motor oil and other lubricant oils are not the same as naptha, mineral oil, and isopropl alcohol. They are lsited as the only ingredients on seafoam’s material safety data sheet . So it is definitely NOT water and a spot of mineral oil. Those three in seafoam are solvents. They are used to dissolve materials andcomust VERY easily. In a new engine, you have to WAYYYYYY overdose and use it wrong to get it to stay in the system long enough to make the smokescreen like that. But in an engine that’s got a bunch of crap in it....well yeah, heat + time + soak is how we break up things that are stuck on with solvents in the lab....There is no water in it. No way to make water either.

There is some basic science behind it all. It is imperfect, but very much legitimate enough.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Rico 07/01/2015 at 11:22

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It actually does go up the power band quite nicely now. Before it felt like a dog. Now the thing can chirp the tires on dry ground and it’s even an automatic!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Rico 07/01/2015 at 12:59

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I’ve never used Sea Foam, but I’ve always been fairly easy on my ‘09 Accent to save on gas in terms of how hard I drive it (poor recent uni grad still looking for a full-time job...)

Is there any truth to the whole “wring your car’s neck once and awhile to keep it running well” thing?

Rico > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 07/01/2015 at 14:39

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Absolutely. By taking your car up to redline every once in a while you are burning off any built up deposits that would instead be making your engine work harder and thus giving you worse gas mileage. Taking it up to redline for a couple of seconds isn’t going to burn 5 gallons of gas so doing it once a month won’t burn up all your fuel.

Same thing goes for brakes and rotors, deposits from road tar, mineral deposits, flash rust from rain build up and beating on your brakes a couple times will clear them of all of that. I don’t mean go 60 MPH - Zero 10 times in a row.

MM54 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 07/01/2015 at 20:19

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My favorite part of seafoam is the drive afterwards, billowing smoke in a manner only rivaled by bad head gaskets (and my chevelle on rainy days).

JWLane1983 > NoneOfYourBiz 07/08/2015 at 19:44

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While not Seafoam, most manufacturer’s have products used to de-carbon the valves, etc. The one that comes to mind right now is the Mopar Combustion Chamber cleaner.

NoneOfYourBiz > JWLane1983 07/08/2015 at 21:32

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A lot of the stealerships around here use the “BG” series of products. For about $200, they hook up an apparatus and inject this stuff into your fuel rail, as well as running some through the fuel system itself. (I’m not endorsing that or any of these products, only pointing out one that’s in use)

JWLane1983 > NoneOfYourBiz 07/09/2015 at 12:13

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True. The products work, though I’m not a fan due to their pricing structure. In addition to the normal pay, BG reps pay the technicians commission and the service advisor commission for selling the BG services... Great for them, bad for the consumer.